New Clan System Voting.

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Are you happy with this new Clan System?

Yes, I am happy with the new Clan System!
301
65%
No, I am happy with the old Clan System!
143
31%
No, I am not happy with old and new Clan System! Different Clan System is necessary!
22
5%
 
Total votes : 466

Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby scratch » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:27 pm

why not try this new system till end of year!! you all already try with old system for 4 year!! why so mad looking everyone happy!! this new system will not last forever!! so as long everyone happy just let it be!! and then you can ask dev for create new system that is fair for old clan war fans and new clan war fans!! if you think its easy to won a prize or reach 2 M rep for jutsu is easy!! why not you try entering e weak clan which to got 200K rep must kill their owm member!!you all ( member from strong clan) already enjoyable on the top!! and not think a bit aboat a member from the weak clan!! you think time is more cheaper from just purchase a amount of token !! you can buy token but not with time!! so appreciate the player who already give al their time for this game!! :D
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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby Kotia_shikayore » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:23 pm

dannytranvan wrote:I really have to upload this screenshot I took. Truth spoken from a person that is not from the Top Clans.

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Well, I have seen enough ..
What if other famous clan said the same thing.
I mean, for example, they said that the system is horrible and svcks ..
Will you expose their screenshots too and show their very name and profile picture ?? :lol:
It is a story which is a non-story ?? This is a forum .. if people want t say something? call him
I mean, WHAT is the point of complaining if the person is incapable of pointing out his own problems here in the forum Ninja Saga.
This is getting ridiculous

any time, anywhere.
I saw a myriad insights about the new system in wall and other facebook groups

But no one gives a ****.

and now, there is someone who is not in the top clan and suddenly?
It has become so much important because LIKE YOU SAID, he's not belong in the top clan and doesn't not agree with this new system ..

and now? The truth HAS BEEN Spoken !!

oh my jesus :shock:
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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby Kotia_shikayore » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:26 pm

UchihaTakashi813 wrote:Colmillon, as I have stated before giving out a senjutsu to the top clan would be a very bad idea. Sure the rep points still can get a free clan the jutsus but I'm gonna show you the issue with the old clan system. Element points can be trumped by item builds, and item builds are trumped by jutsus. End of story. now that senjutsus are out, Senjutsus trump most if not all regular jutsus. so you give only those two hundred an fifty people that senjutsu, yeah it will be rare. but you'll run into more hacker clans, and in the end it will be just like the old clan system, just under a different disguise. I see the issue with so many players getting it that your saying its not "special" anymore. Well guess what? its not like we can sell it for tokens. its not like it has any more value then what you perceive it to have. This is a game. I'll repeat that in all caps and separating each word to emphasize. THIS. IS. A. GAME. Its not important. All the hard working clans have earned the jutsu. THEY HAVE EARNED IT! You make it to where super special and super powerful (don't even try to say they wont be overpowering) senjutsus, Which are supposed to run like talents anyways, are a prize for first place, CW will die again. Same clans will be winning month after month. And then the jutsu will become special again cause only 10 clans are getting it. Then what your gonna drop the senjutsu thing and bring the old system back? I'm sorry. While I may agree to the rep requirement being raised to try and make it a bit harder to earn the jutsus you do anything your suggesting. You or Danny. IT WILL KILL THIS GAME! You guys are ACTING (doesn't mean you are. There is a difference) like spoiled children because someone who works just as hard as you is given a chance to receive the same reward as you. This is the fairest system I can think of. If you want top spot to have a special meaning. Give them two or three CW jutsus. All prepared for that season. One of them is a rep reward. Is it still unfair yeah, cause you guys who can afford to drop $2000 a month on a flash game will still have more special jutsus then the free players but was a rather integral part of this game. I was a competitive swimmer for 10 years. I'm gonna use this to show you why this new system is the best for the game. See, people with money could buy these suits called "Fast-skins". They were designed to be much like a shark's skin. Sleek, streamlined, and more water resistant. The people that could really afford the full body suits which could drop full seconds off a swimmer's time have been banned for years now. Why? Cause swimmers like me, who worked just as hard and only had enough money to go to the swim meets and get maybe a sweater every third meet would not have the slightest chance to beat this rich kids with thousand dollar suits. They did not ban fast skins entirely however. You can still purchase ones in a "jammer" form. Which stops just above your knees. While these don't drop seconds like a full body can, they still give a swimmer with a fast-skin suit a very competitive edge. But I worked hard and I could keep up with and sometimes beat those swimmers. Why is that? Because I worked hard. Now Old system is just like the swimming world before they banned most fast-skins. Cause only the rich can win. New clan system is like the post ban swim world. The rich can still get their edge, but those with talent and skill and hard work have a chance to keep up and thrive. Now you tell me which you'd rather see happen to Ninja Saga. A massive thriving and enjoyable game for everyone, or a barren wasteland where only the rich can compete in anything?


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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby Aerialace » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:03 pm

i think the clan system today is ok.. but this is what i can say to devs.. beware of what effects you made on items and jutsu.. this is one of the main reason i see that the game now is in unbalance.. most of your created weapons and jutsu are all overpowered.. you can make it more powerful than usual weapons and jutsu but not too much..
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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby Alaskador » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:22 pm

I think the new Clan system is cool (+1), the new reward system is available for all players with or without tokens (+1), Colmillonegro said about the hackers, ohh! yeah NS devs is responsible to control the use of 3rd party software (-1). Clan War Panel for Android is a good idea (+1) but it's easier to reach 2 million of reputation (-1), I think the clan system needs more difficulty, more emotion and less boredom. NS (2009-2011) :D NS (2013-2014) :cry:
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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby Alidini.S » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:46 am

This new system sucks :( everyone have the same clan rewards,its not fun when over 10 000 people have the same rewards its time to change to old system players alredy got "free" clan rewards its enough
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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby UchihaTakashi813 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:34 am

Alidini.S wrote:This new system sucks :( everyone have the same clan rewards,its not fun when over 10 000 people have the same rewards its time to change to old system players alredy got "free" clan rewards its enough


You mean the old system where only JG and the other clans where $2000 + dollars a month are required for burning? The old system where only the rich have any chance at winning? No thanks. Sure this system can use some Altering but this is the most active I've seen CW. I'm not socialist, I think the rewards should be special for the top ten places, yes. But the issue is there is a fine line between fair for all, then making a new "old" clan system. And Millon. Thanks for that post. It did help me see your points a bit more. Though heres why i say senjutsu is a bad idea unless they will be much different then the one we have currently. Super Charge costs 600 sp. It restores 25% hp & cp. its cooldown is six turns. so unless the other ones have longer cooldowns or something that is why I say they'll be over powered. but I think all your other ideas are good ones. There has to be something done to make the top ten spots worth fighting over.
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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby arijanm » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:21 am

Kotia_shikayore wrote:nah, DEVS is such a good person.
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He is not greedy. Why?
because he was willing to cooperate and give when calamity occurs in other countries !! (example YOLANDA event etc ) Image

i think, ur the real greedy around here Image


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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby Danielos » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:03 pm

I don't sense any clan war in this new Ninja Saga Clan system , It's a worthless event now this so called clan war!
I think this should change to the old system , when Clan Clashes with each other to be the bests cuz now it's to easy to earn reputations , and it's not like a Clan War .

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Re: New Clan System Voting.

Postby UchihaTakashi813 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:10 pm

Danielos wrote: I think this should change to the old system , when Clan Clashes with each other to be the bests cuz now it's to easy to earn reputations , and it's not like a Clan War .

Daniel Shehu
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Daniel while I agree that this doesn't feel like a "Clan War" as you want, the old system was so flawed it was too much like real life which people play these games to escape. In the old system it ultimately punished people who cant afford to spend $2000+ dollars a month to give their clan a fair shot at winning. So I once again must deny that the old system is better. You may like it better then this new system, but look at the votes. You have more then half of those polled against you. Closing in on Three-Fourths. The old system may keep it exclusive but I must ask you. Are you a Free player, a semi-payer, or a pay-to-winner? I'm a Semi payer and frankly the idea that the devs only reward those who spend money in Two grand increments to win a silly in game jutsu is appalling. Now before you try and say it I'm gonna ask and answer your possible "troll" question. Why am I against returning to the old system if I think the CW fight over a in game skill that has no bearing on the real world is silly? Simple. Cause there was a noticable "tension" to put it politely between the free players and semi -payers (which may I remind you make up the bulk of this game) and the Clan "professionals". The Clan ninja would flaunt and brag (perhaps not verbally but actions and how they played against non clan players speaks louder then words) and call us non full payers "noobs" and the like just because we don't have all the skills they do. Noobs are new players to a game who don't know how to play it and make stupid mistakes. Not having a extra disposable two grand does not make us a "noob". They have HP regen items that give them stupidly over powered Hp regen and then they yell at us free to semi payers for using a healing scroll. Using those items are the only way we can have a chance to win in PvP (just an example.) So again I pose the same **** question. Which would you rather? Have a Thriving game full of fun people to meet and make friends with, Or a Barren wasteland that punished and oppresses the poor while rewarding the rich even further and letting them rub their wealth in everyone's noses like jerks would do? (Not saying rich people are jerks just saying that the old system made it easier to do jerk like behavior cause its not like we can make them stop either in Real life or in the game. plus just by having all the stuff its sorta rubbing it in people's faces already if they don't have it.)
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